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Postby gokarter45 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:32 pm

I can afforde that for only 1 every to months. Id do it if it was 50 to 100
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Postby smgs92 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:36 pm

dude do it urself just check it if it has a problem then take it to a shop
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Postby gokarter45 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:39 pm

I know thats what i mean i just wanna keep it nice and everything.
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Postby smgs92 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:42 pm

as long as u treat it gently and dont do the same thing u did the 1st day i rode in ur kart and break somethging it should be fine for a couple weeks check it tighten everything repeat daily
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Postby gokarter45 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:06 pm

I know and i didnt break anything on my kart my tie rode came on bolted.
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Postby smgs92 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:08 pm

no we bent the spindle
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Postby jeremy » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:28 pm

well....i am not going to make another long post stating prices of modern bikes. the last time they made a 300cc 4 stroke was eons ago. single cam...blah blah blah. 2 valve...blah blah, non coated cylinders, air cooled...so on and so forth
i made my living the past 15 years doin this stuff....

go to rockymountainatv.com and price some things for modern rides. 2 cams, 5 valves per cylinder, nikasil coated cylinders.....technology in the quad world/dirtbike world has changed on the 4 stroke side. the valves for my z400 are 60 bucks a piece, and theres 4 of em in my cylinder head, not to menion dual cams, they run almost 400 dollars, and if i need a piston, 200 dollars. if i need it bored, well...theres the machine shop charge, then it has to be sent out to be re nikasl coated. you cant just bore and hone and toss a piston in them anymore. a topend job will cost close to 500-1000 dollars on a modern machine if you do it correctly, depending on parts and if you do the labor yourself.
regardless, if you plan on racing motocross...the ttr 125 is by far the {flaxulation} thing from a motocross bike.

the thing on a 2 stroke you need to pay most attention to is compression, and jetting. once the carbs jetted right..no worries. i always rejetted any 2 stroke i bought just to be sure i was right, you never know what the last guy did. temperature wont be an issue as every 125cc 2 stroke bike has water cooling...as for pipes, you have the run of the mill fmf, overall power, pro circuit..mx powerband, trinity..all out race. there are no bad 2 stroke pipes on the market anymore (besides dg). as for 4 strokes...theres a huge difference in pipes as well, you can go with a slip on, leave the stock header, or you ca go full system. there can be as much as 4hp difference between pipe brands on 4 strokes...2 stroke is just a matter of where the power hits the hardest, which is where the pipe design comes in. long, fat chambers with short stingers produce alot of top end power wheres and narrow short chambers with long stinger section produce more power on the lowend and tend to drop off power at higher rpm's. then you add on silencer lenght, and diameter and theres a whole new ratio to throw in the mixture.
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Postby speed shop » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:43 pm

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Postby gokarter45 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:44 am

Those spindles are easy to that why im getting new reinforced ones. And yeah Ill go check that place out the reason that if be nice if i got a yz 125 is that it be race ready for when i do motorcross.
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Postby smgs92 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:36 pm

jeremy wrote:well....i am not going to make another long post stating prices of modern bikes. the last time they made a 300cc 4 stroke was eons ago. single cam...blah blah blah. 2 valve...blah blah, non coated cylinders, air cooled...so on and so forth
i made my living the past 15 years doin this stuff....

go to rockymountainatv.com and price some things for modern rides. 2 cams, 5 valves per cylinder, nikasil coated cylinders.....technology in the quad world/dirtbike world has changed on the 4 stroke side. the valves for my z400 are 60 bucks a piece, and theres 4 of em in my cylinder head, not to menion dual cams, they run almost 400 dollars, and if i need a piston, 200 dollars. if i need it bored, well...theres the machine shop charge, then it has to be sent out to be re nikasl coated. you cant just bore and hone and toss a piston in them anymore. a topend job will cost close to 500-1000 dollars on a modern machine if you do it correctly, depending on parts and if you do the labor yourself.
regardless, if you plan on racing motocross...the ttr 125 is by far the <font color=orange>{flaxulation}</font> thing from a motocross bike.

the thing on a 2 stroke you need to pay most attention to is compression, and jetting. once the carbs jetted right..no worries. i always rejetted any 2 stroke i bought just to be sure i was right, you never know what the last guy did. temperature wont be an issue as every 125cc 2 stroke bike has water cooling...as for pipes, you have the run of the mill fmf, overall power, pro circuit..mx powerband, trinity..all out race. there are no bad 2 stroke pipes on the market anymore (besides dg). as for 4 strokes...theres a huge difference in pipes as well, you can go with a slip on, leave the stock header, or you ca go full system. there can be as much as 4hp difference between pipe brands on 4 strokes...2 stroke is just a matter of where the power hits the hardest, which is where the pipe design comes in. long, fat chambers with short stingers produce alot of top end power wheres and narrow short chambers with long stinger section produce more power on the lowend and tend to drop off power at higher rpm's. then you add on silencer lenght, and diameter and theres a whole new ratio to throw in the mixture.

okay u know alot about bikes find me what i need for my cz 125cc 2cycle racing engine
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Postby jeremy » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:58 pm

so what is it you need?
year? street or dirt model?
being its a Czechoslovakian make, it may be hard to find performance type parts. you always have the option of sending the cylinder and head off to be ported and polished. the biggest bang for the buck for performance is porting. its not something you want to do on your own. there is extensive research that goes into each cylinder to optimize flow and port timing. you can also have a custom pipe made to match the engine porting and flow.
this place has upgrade carb kits, pipes and i'm sure they could hook a guy up with some engine work.

http://www.crhighperformance.com/products.html
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Postby gokarter45 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:21 am

Damn thats good place for them. Can you show me were i could get upgrades for a yz125 or a ttr 125
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Postby jeremy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:42 am

i buy all my stuff from
motosport outlet (google it for the website)\and RMATV.com

i took my 02 blaster that i had from bone stock (55mph) 200cc 2 stroke to a 75 mph machine and never even tuched the lower end of the engine. my next mod was going to be a stroker kit and some serious drag port, but i traded it off.
heres pics and mod list for funsies.

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Postby gokarter45 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:27 pm

Nice work looks sweet im good do alot of mod on my dirt bike once i get it.
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Postby smgs92 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:40 pm

jeremy wrote:so what is it you need?
year? street or dirt model?
being its a Czechoslovakian make, it may be hard to find performance type parts. you always have the option of sending the cylinder and head off to be ported and polished. the biggest bang for the buck for performance is porting. its not something you want to do on your own. there is extensive research that goes into each cylinder to optimize flow and port timing. you can also have a custom pipe made to match the engine porting and flow.
this place has upgrade carb kits, pipes and i'm sure they could hook a guy up with some engine work.

http://www.crhighperformance.com/products.html

damn u really know ur stuff idk what all i need prolly a total engine rebuild but its the dirt model and im not worried about performance ive seen these run and they can easily hit 70mph and its 22hp so ive got all the power i need and i dont need a custom pipe just engine parts and my kickstarter is jammed and yea its at gokarters house ill make him make a list if he can get the engine casing off
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Postby gokarter45 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:54 pm

yeah that stuffs a B**** to get off with all the old corated parts.
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Postby smgs92 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:40 pm

u mean corroded and its actually in pretty good condition
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Postby gokarter45 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 pm

Wel its seen better days.
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Postby jeremy » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:04 am

we went to the supercross race last night at the dome in st louis, their was a display in the pits that had about 20 classic bikes from the 70's. husqvarnas, some CZ's (first time i've seen one in person and took notice to it). unfortunately, i lost my digicam, and didnt get any pics.
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Postby gokarter45 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:00 pm

Ohh that suck would been cool to see some. smgs's is a 78 i think
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